Such use of reverb does not necessarily imply long tails (where compression becomes an issue as you say), or obvious pumping artefacts.
As part of sound design in particular, if a reverb provides thickening or other aspects that "complete" a sound then it can be desirable to print this to audio. You probably know this but I have to chime in: You make valid points but from the point of view of electronic music composition and sound design, reverb is often not used merely as an "aux effect". I use Valhalla verbs in every project I make. Despite the Quadraverb being a mainstay of a period of music I adore - 90s bleep techno / IDM etc - its character and noise didn't really work for me. But stabs and pads - for example - often benefit from being thickened by shorter verbs, and that then can often be further thickened with some comp (though in this case I'd probably use a touch of parallel comp).Įdit: Back on topic edit - I love the MIDIVerb II and keep one around often to thicken sounds in the ways described above. In fact using compressors/gates to move verb in "unnatural" ways is a technique used in certain genres. The problem with using ANY hardware reverb is if you plan on mixing your sound using compression.(snip)You probably know this but I have to chime in: You make valid points but from the point of view of electronic music composition and sound design, reverb is often not used merely as an "aux effect". I'd personally take a Quadraverb over any Valhalla reverb but if you want a good ITB reverb look into Aether and B2 (if you don't mind tweaking that is) and if you can afford them,Lexicon PCM stuff just "works"zero effort required.i don't really know what are your requirements but if you are looking for a more FX oriented reverb then i'd look into the Eventide Ultraverb which i think does the Valhalla thing (very diffused late reflections,dramatic modulation etc)a lot better I'm probably one of the only people who don't really like Valhalla reverbs.i wouldn't really consider them reverbs either as in reverberate what you put in as the signal is usually drastically different to what you put in (read not tight)so IMO pretty rubbish on drums where you mostly want tight but dense clustered early reflections.one thing that the Valhalla stuff is good at though is when you use it on pads 100% wet as a kind of artificial release it excels at that because the late reflections don't really sound like a reverberation more of an artificial extension of the envelope you put in.other than that though i find them mushy and not in the old BBD delay sense of mushy where the sound disappears into a lovely dense sonic abyss,but that general all too common VST digital swamp of mud that causes you to get a bit liberal with EQ,compression etc to shoehorn the reverb into your mix You may set these knobs once and then not touch them, but it's still a good idea to check for pots that are going bad, or buttons that don't work. The knobs on older Alesis gear tend to get a bit "scratchy". You might also want to check out the knobs and buttons, to make sure they work properly. And the reverbs in it aren't nearly as configurable as Valhalla's, of course.Īs with any piece of outboard gear though, you'll have to make sure your levels to it are "just right" and that you compensate for the latency.Īnd definitely check pawn shops, local repair shops and/or Craigslist to see if you can get one locally. The QuadraVerb is more than just a reverb, but it doesn't necessarily have the "charm" of the Valhalla 'verb.
If you can get both, you'd probably have a lot of fun with them. That will tend to make them sound a bit "noisy", too.
Also, if I'm not mistaken, they have a compressor at the input to make the most out of the signal-to-noise ratio. Like most "semi-pro" boxes, they're not as quiet as a Lexicon, but they could be worse. What do you mean by "noisy"?It depends upon which effects you're using, and in which order.
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